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PePe Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : Simo Från : Finland Kör : Ford Sierra Registration date : 08-09-26
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 02 okt 2008, 20:52 | |
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- PePe skrev:
- Hello from Finland!
Great site you have here and I like your videos too.
But the main reason why I'm posting is that I'm planning on doing a turbo conversion for my Sierra.
That tutorial is great and just something what I have been looking for my budget. But the wiring diagram for extra injectors have gone I see, would it be possible to someone to upload it again? Could be very helpful.
Also how about the ignition timing? It isn't really adjustable in the EEC-IV, so I'm afraid of getting problems with knocking, original timing can be a little too early when there is boost. In original iS Sierras there is this little 3-pin connector lying under the ignition coil and when you ground those wires you can get the ignition timing modified 2, 4, or 6 degrees later. Have you been using this method or something else, or have it even been required to get the engine run properly?
Thanks
To the left is the pressure switch and to the right is the injector.
Most of all here dont do anything to the ignition timing whit orginal EEC-IV managment. Thanks! But the problem is that they are written in Swedish and I can't really tell what are them... I also found this from the Swedish tutorial: Again I have the same problem, I don't understand Swedish. Some bits I understand but not the whole diagram. | |
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Henrik Skogenracing Sponsor
Antal inlägg : 1669 Age : 36 Namn : Henrik Från : land Kör : Nissan och Ford Registration date : 06-10-13
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PePe Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : Simo Från : Finland Kör : Ford Sierra Registration date : 08-09-26
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 02 okt 2008, 21:09 | |
| Big thanks! I'm not still sure what that pressure switch is or from where to get it. | |
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Henrik Skogenracing Sponsor
Antal inlägg : 1669 Age : 36 Namn : Henrik Från : land Kör : Nissan och Ford Registration date : 06-10-13
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 02 okt 2008, 21:26 | |
| - PePe skrev:
- Big thanks!
I'm not still sure what that pressure switch is or from where to get it. Its to start the injectors at a special pressure eg 0,3bar och 0,5bar. U can get it from a old saab turbo our use a industrial one. The simpliest is to use the orginal oil pressure sender. U have to mount it so that it has boat pressure and vacum eg in the intake mainifold... Im sure u can find more information on this if u search. | |
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PePe Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : Simo Från : Finland Kör : Ford Sierra Registration date : 08-09-26
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 02 okt 2008, 21:30 | |
| - Ford skrev:
Its to start the injectors at a special pressure eg 0,3bar och 0,5bar. U can get it from a old saab turbo our use a industrial one. The simpliest is to use the orginal oil pressure sender. U have to mount it so that it has boat pressure and vacum eg in the intake mainifold... Im sure u can find more information on this if u search. Yeah I just did some searching... I know pretty much how it is called in Finnish "painekytkin". Adjustable would be nice, but it is hard to find a one what is designed to low enough pressures. With the oil pressure sender you mean Sierra's original one? Does anyone know in what pressure it triggers the injectors? | |
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Mikael Skogencrew
Antal inlägg : 15246 Age : 45 Namn : Mikael Från : Gävle Kör : Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Skidoo summit tjejskoter Registration date : 06-10-11
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 02 okt 2008, 21:57 | |
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PePe Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : Simo Från : Finland Kör : Ford Sierra Registration date : 08-09-26
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 02 okt 2008, 22:17 | |
| Ok, that sounds just perfect. | |
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martini22 Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : martins Kör : 230239 Registration date : 08-09-29
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto sön 05 okt 2008, 17:24 | |
| that is imposible to buy sierra with turbo from skogenracing!? how much? | |
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Öbbe Skogencrew
Antal inlägg : 6142 Age : 42 Namn : Öberg Från : Gävle Kör : Porsche 997TT, Polaris RMK 800 turbo -14, Ockelbo 600 -71 Registration date : 06-10-12
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto sön 05 okt 2008, 19:43 | |
| - martini22 skrev:
- that is imposible to buy sierra with turbo from skogenracing!? how much?
Think no one have anything for sale, look in "köp o sälj" section on the forum.. | |
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martini22 Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : martins Kör : 230239 Registration date : 08-09-29
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto mån 06 okt 2008, 11:47 | |
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PePe Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : Simo Från : Finland Kör : Ford Sierra Registration date : 08-09-26
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 21 okt 2008, 19:32 | |
| Oh btw one more, when using the Sierra's oil pressure sensor / pressure switch, is that relay nc (normally closed) or no (normally open)?
My understanding on electrics is quite low and my mate just give this question for me. | |
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Mikael Skogencrew
Antal inlägg : 15246 Age : 45 Namn : Mikael Från : Gävle Kör : Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Skidoo summit tjejskoter Registration date : 06-10-11
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 21 okt 2008, 21:45 | |
| The oil pressuare sensor is closed when its in "standbye" and the circuit is opened when it have pressuare | |
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PePe Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 8 Namn : Simo Från : Finland Kör : Ford Sierra Registration date : 08-09-26
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto ons 22 okt 2008, 15:49 | |
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smurf Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 5 Namn : vladimir Från : russia Kör : ford sierra NA Registration date : 08-12-02
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 02 dec 2008, 17:57 | |
| hi, i have sierra pinto 2.0 and want to blow it up to 0.8 bar, is it okay with stock engine? standart compression ratio and pistons. can i use stock ecu? what injectors should i use for this pressure?
thank u.
PS great site ) | |
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Mikael Skogencrew
Antal inlägg : 15246 Age : 45 Namn : Mikael Från : Gävle Kör : Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Skidoo summit tjejskoter Registration date : 06-10-11
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 02 dec 2008, 19:31 | |
| Yes its ok, but the engine needs more fuel. Standard Ecu and some extra injectors driven by a oilpressure switch works. Or 350cc injectors and a biggar and modified air mass sensor | |
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smurf Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 5 Namn : vladimir Från : russia Kör : ford sierra NA Registration date : 08-12-02
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 02 dec 2008, 23:14 | |
| can u tell me more about modificating mass air sensor? | |
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Henrik Skogenracing Sponsor
Antal inlägg : 1669 Age : 36 Namn : Henrik Från : land Kör : Nissan och Ford Registration date : 06-10-13
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto ons 03 dec 2008, 16:35 | |
| - smurf skrev:
- can u tell me more about modificating mass air sensor?
Its also called Air Flow Meter ( AFM ) Use a bigger one or modify the "house" to be bigger. But i think the best way is to use aftermarket injection system as megasquirt or haltec ect... | |
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smurf Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 5 Namn : vladimir Från : russia Kör : ford sierra NA Registration date : 08-12-02
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto ons 03 dec 2008, 17:47 | |
| i was thinking that stock maf willn't give right signal cause too high air flow. i think i will use ecu j5sport its famous in russia cost 320$ and it's easy to program it using lambda(broadband? don't know how it ll in english). | |
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M-H Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 3 Namn : Margo Kör : 2.0iS Sierra Registration date : 08-12-22
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 23 dec 2008, 10:37 | |
| Hello everybody! I´m from Estonia and my Sierra iS wants to go faster too! The whole idea is damn simple, thanks for sharing it! I have one question: Why theres have to be a relay between battery and injectors? And may there be any 4-pin relay, I can find, or are the numbers on pins important? (Im not that good in electronics) Still, one question more: can anyone suggest, which A/R turbo would be the best to install on a sierra? | |
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Mikael Skogencrew
Antal inlägg : 15246 Age : 45 Namn : Mikael Från : Gävle Kör : Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Skidoo summit tjejskoter Registration date : 06-10-11
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tis 23 dec 2008, 11:45 | |
| The idea is to ease the current flow through the pressure sensor
most relay are 4-pin, but to use a oil pressure sensor you need a 5-pin relay.
We don´t think in A/R. For a simple turbo conversion you can take any turbo from a ordenary car that has the same displacement. | |
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M-H Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 3 Namn : Margo Kör : 2.0iS Sierra Registration date : 08-12-22
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto ons 24 dec 2008, 13:05 | |
| Ok, thats clear now. But what about the knocking? Somebody posted: - PePe skrev:
In original iS Sierras there is this little 3-pin connector lying under the ignition coil and when you ground those wires you can get the ignition timing modified 2, 4, or 6 degrees later. Have you been using this method or something else, or have it even been required to get the engine run properly?
Actually it would be quite easy to adjust the timing with another pressure switch. Or using 98E gasoline I dont have to worry about it? Another question, can the spark plugs may be original or I have to use "colder" plugs? | |
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Mikael Skogencrew
Antal inlägg : 15246 Age : 45 Namn : Mikael Från : Gävle Kör : Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Skidoo summit tjejskoter Registration date : 06-10-11
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto ons 24 dec 2008, 13:15 | |
| You can adjust the ignition on the distributor, the only problem is that you adjust the whole curve, but it´s such a small adjustment så it dont matter that much | |
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M-H Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 3 Namn : Margo Kör : 2.0iS Sierra Registration date : 08-12-22
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto tor 25 dec 2008, 17:23 | |
| I haven´t four K-Jetronic injectors, but I do have BMW 2.0 injectors, may I put those too, or they have to be exactly the cold start injectors from Sierra (because their flow rate etc?)
I suppose, you ment these cold start injectors just because they are very easy to mount on the manifold? | |
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smurf Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 5 Namn : vladimir Från : russia Kör : ford sierra NA Registration date : 08-12-02
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto ons 11 feb 2009, 16:29 | |
| can u show me more photos about mounting extra injectors plz. | |
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Tim Skogenracing Small
Antal inlägg : 1 Age : 44 Namn : Tim Från : geens Kör : Ford Sierra 2.0i DOHC Turbo Registration date : 08-12-30
| Rubrik: Sv: Pinto Turbo Conversion - Howto sön 29 mar 2009, 21:50 | |
| Hello,
I see your videos and website and have my Ford Sierra 2.0 DOHC converted to turbo.
The oil supply is connected to the oil contact but now the little engine lubrication oil is only 1 bar and that would be around 3 bar should be.
Do you have this problem and how you solve it? The pictures of the project follow. | |
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