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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 14 dec 2010, 16:46

cool man! nice pictures to.

keep up the good work Smile
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tor 17 feb 2011, 23:34

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   fre 18 feb 2011, 06:44

Yes it would!

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   lör 19 feb 2011, 00:38

Cool!

I'm not familiar with the Holset turbos, but I'm guessing it's similar to a GT35.
Rated to 500BHP as well Very Happy
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   lör 19 feb 2011, 10:34

It has no similarity at all. The gt35 is a racingturbo, this hx35 is from a truck.


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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 22 feb 2011, 18:16

Looking good. Soon to start my turbo project.

The intake Mikael posted is an american truck intake. It has long runners for torque. Just has small ports, and small 56 mm throttle plate. There are some 58 mm throttle plates but only in the 1986 and 1987 models.

Those intakes are a all over here. It's not a very pretty intake either.

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   fre 20 jan 2012, 10:43

Hi!


Been a while since I updated here, but the Capri project is back on track!

Work in progress at Chizfab.......

Face reconstruction in progress, with plenty of space for the BM rad', big intercooler and oil cooler.


Most of the cage in place, rebuilt raised floor and access panels.




Adapted floor and brackets nearly ready to accept the Watts linkage, Volvo axle and coilovers.
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   fre 20 jan 2012, 12:08

Looking good!!

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   fre 20 jan 2012, 12:25

Will need to get a Megasquirt map from you like we spoke of before when the engine is in too Mikael!
Will be using twin turbos, but I'm sure it would be a good starting point...
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   mån 30 jan 2012, 23:39

WOW, 535BHP Mikael?!!?!??
I haven't followed your thread recently.... what's the secret?! Shocked

I just had my rebuilt 2.9 twin turbo delivered today with two little T2 turbos bolted on.
(think I need a pair of T28s?)

People in the UK say 250BHP is the limit for a stock engine but you're running more than double that!
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 00:42

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WOW, 535BHP Mikael?!!?!??
I haven't followed your thread recently.... what's the secret?! Shocked

I just had my rebuilt 2.9 twin turbo delivered today with two little T2 turbos bolted on.
(think I need a pair of T28s?)

People in the UK say 250BHP is the limit for a stock engine but you're running more than double that!
Cool

Maybe the small turbos that gives that limit Cool
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 00:45

People don't even seem to think of using bigger ones!

If I ran two T28s I wonder how much power I could get..... and what modifications the engine might need?
Is is rebuilt with heavy duty bearing and a reground crankshaft.
The heads have some work to lower the compression also.

I will be running a megasquirt management system.
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 00:47

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 00:57

One big is better than two small. Smile
Here in Sweden we load a Garrett GT40, Holset HX35 or similar from a lorry on the 2.9er and boost it with about 1bar on 98 octane fuel. That gives you a "Skogen 29er BPU" with 323whp, unopened and tones of fun! Smile We have not heard of anyone breaking their 2.9er on that boost level.

And it looks pretty neat to with one big turbo (535BHP engine on the pics).



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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 01:03

I would have liked to use one big turbo, but two smaller ones seemed the best option here as I could get that a lot cheaper than having a manifold made and buying a big turbo.
Total opposite to what you have in Sweden probably, but that is the way in the UK!

The turbo manifolds I have will accept T2 flange fitment, so I can upgrade to T25 or T28 easily. I would think that would give me potential for either 400 or 500 BHP?

Is it true that if I run with too much torque in the lower revs I can damage the rods or crank? Is it better to have lag, and only torque above 3000RPM for example?

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 08:52

Ade skrev:
Is it true that if I run with too much torque in the lower revs I can damage the rods or crank? Is it better to have lag, and only torque above 3000RPM for example?


Yes it´s true, the rods and pistons don´t like high torque on low revs.

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 11:12

When does the boost start building on your engine Mikael? Do you have any graphs?
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 11:20

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When does the boost start building on your engine Mikael? Do you have any graphs?

The boost starts to build at 3500rpm and hits 1.45bar at 4500rpm. After that it pulls all the way to 6500rpm. 765nm ( 564lb/ft) of torque by the way. Smile

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 11:22

6500?! Nice! In the UK people are always saying don't run them above 6000RPM!
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 11:27

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6500?! Nice! In the UK people are always saying don't run them above 6000RPM!

Above 6500rpm the lifters might break, so its better to leave it around 6000-6500rpm. It depends on which cam you are running. The Kent cams V6T46 likes to rev a little more, and that camshaft is great for turboing. You will get a real difference in both power and engine/turbo response if you install one of those.

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 11:29

Looks like I'll be running a standard camshaft. Sad
How did the Kent one change the power delivery?
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 11:57

Ade skrev:
Looks like I'll be running a standard camshaft. Sad
How did the Kent one change the power delivery?

Standard is good to. Bigger turbos and 1 bar of boost and you are home (367BHP)! Smile The original MT75 will not hold for much more power anyways and if you are running a Type 9, don't bother. It will break as soon as you get over 250BHP (if not earlier)
Remember that the 535BHP is on E85. That fuel gives the engine both more hp, cooler combustion and lower the risk of detonations.

We have not dynoed a NA standard engine vs kent cam engine, but if we calculate backwards on the boosted BHP it would give you around 179HP. This is of course "boosted" power so the numbers will higher than if you dyno a standard 29er.
The V6T46 engine gives a calculated 205HP on the same fuel. If you then calculate it with % and assume the standard 29er got 145HP, the V6T46 would give it 166HP (21HP in difference).

The difference in power is not much, but what the cam will give you is an engine that is much more alive and both torque and hp goes up. It really makes the 29er breathe.

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 12:02

I'll be running a Getrag box from a Jaguar adapted to fit, so all good there.
Also got a Volvo 240 axle fitted.

Cool, looks like I'll be running the 2.9 with the standard cam, (don't know which turbos yet) and 97-99RON fuel.

So are there no areas which need to be uprated in the engine to cope with the approximate 400BHP power?! Very Happy
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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tis 31 jan 2012, 12:13

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I'll be running a Getrag box from a Jaguar adapted to fit, so all good there.
Also got a Volvo 240 axle fitted.

Cool, looks like I'll be running the 2.9 with the standard cam, (don't know which turbos yet) and 97-99RON fuel.

So are there no areas which need to be uprated in the engine to cope with the approximate 400BHP power?! Very Happy

400BHP will be on the limit. Around 350-380BHP will be fine.
The problem is when you get over 1bar of boost, the head gaskets might blow. Almost certain when you pass 1.2bar. Also we noticed that if you let the engine run warm, the 2nd cylinder piston will break due to heat problems so a bigger turbo and good cooling is A and O to make it hold together.

Seams like you will not have any problems on the tranny so thats good. If you get hold of a MS1 and 6pcs 350-352cc injectors we have a map that will fit almost right away. You might need to change it a little on the boost level though.

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InläggRubrik: Sv: Scottish drift Capri   tor 02 feb 2012, 00:18

Sounds good! Very Happy

I'm looking at Nissan 200SX turbos as these are the easiest and cheapest to buy here in the UK.

I've been told.... "T25 on a 1.8 CA tops out around 230 BHP. Standard T28 from a SR will do 280 BHP at 15psi. If fitted to 1.8 the T28 spools from 2000 RPM, and usually full boost for 3000 RPM"

Not sure which to go for? Which would give the most similar results to your single turbo?
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